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Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Is the Father (Spirit) greater than Jesus (the Son...

Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Is the Father (Spirit) greater than Jesus (the Son...: "John 14:28 The Father is greater than Jesus (Sonship-flesh). This statement will have to be addressed because it could be a stumbling bloc..."

Is the Father (Spirit) greater than Jesus (the Son-Flesh)?


John 14:28

The Father is greater than Jesus (Sonship-flesh). This statement will have to be addressed because it could be a stumbling block for many people who will try to find reasons not to believe Jesus is God "The Father" and that the Word of God is somehow in error (Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, Colossians 2:9)..

To satisfy this scripture; I would like to reiterate the importance of knowing the Spirit and its operation and the flesh (Sonship) and its operation. The Father or the Spirit of Christ is so much greater than the flesh because of the limitations that God placed on all flesh; even the flesh of Jesus. At one point, Jesus in his Sonship could not inhabit the whole universe. The Father (Spirit) can inhabit the whole universe, therefore, The Father (the Spirit) is greater. The flesh cannot be in more than one place at the same time. God in the Spirit can be in every place at the same time. Therefore, the Father (Spirit) is greater. The flesh of God needed rest, food, and water. The Father (the Spirit) doesn’t need rest, food, nor water, therefore, the Father is greater. The Father (the Spirit) is all-powerful and the flesh of Jesus had limitations and the Flesh did not have all power at that time. Therefore, the Father (the Spirit) is greater. Jesus (The flesh-Sonship) received all power after the resurrection and after his glorification (Matthew 28:18, John 12:28, 13:31-32).

Jesus made simple statements. However, you won’t understand what he is saying if you don’t believe that he is God and if you don’t understand his dual nature. Unless you understand the dual nature of Jesus, you will never understand what Jesus means, when he speaks. Without controversy, this is the mystery of godliness (I Timothy 3:16). God himself was manifested as the Son and yet, we still won’t believe he is both the Father and the Son (John 1:10). What will the Lord do with this generation, if they won’t believe his Word? When you hear the truth sometimes you feel like you don’t want to hear it.

John 16: 1-4, 7, 14-16

The following statements might make you feel like you don’t want to hear it.. However, continue reading and you will begin to see the light based on the scriptures. When God’s chosen people tell others that God is not a Trinity, they will become extremely upset because their logic has been tainted by traditions and untruths (Colossians 2:8-9). They will be challenged in a way they have never known before. If we would search the scriptures, we would find that there are no recordings about the Trinity in the scriptures. The concept of the Trinity is not a foundation based on Christ. The “Trinity” has a foundation based on a concept of three co-equal and separate personalities in one being, which doesn’t have anything to do with who God is. The Trinity is an "assumption" of who God is.

The Trinitarian doctrine was suggested at the Council of Nicaea in 325A.D. This is a doctrine of men and that’s why it can’t be understood, explained, nor proven by the scriptures. The Trinity is a figment of man’s imagination, which is based on traditions, deceit, and philosophy (Colossians 2:8-10). There are people who will call themselves Christians and they will put a “Oneness Christian” out of their Churches and they will think that they will be doing God a favor.

They will do these things because they don’t know who God is; they don’t understand that God is one (Mark 12:32). They will say that God is one but they don’t understand that the one God’s name is Jesus Christ (The Father – Isaiah 9:6, John 1:1, 3, 10, 14, I Timothy 3:16). God used three manifestations of himself for the salvation of man. (Titus 1:16). Again, they won’t believe, nor accept the fact, that the name of the Father, and name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ (proven in Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:28). Three manifestations of One God and one Name.

Note: Today, I believe, “unbelieving followers of Christ” will act the same as the people who wanted to kill Jesus for blasphemy. They won’t believe the Word of God because they don’t understand it. True believers of Christ, believe that Jesus is the Son and he is equal with God and is, in fact, God himself and he can forgive sins (Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21, John 5:18). The Word of God is true but to an unbeliever, it can’t be understood, neither will they know the way of salvation because of their unbelief. They don’t know who God the Father is; neither do they know Jesus Christ, the Son (John 8:19).

I have heard it said, that if anyone tells you that there is no such thing as a Trinity; don’t listen to them. Remember this; the person who tells you not to listen to the truth of the oneness of God and the Deity of Christ is being used by the spirit of the antichrist which is against the name of Christ (I John 3:21-26).

Search the scriptures for yourself and you will find that there are not three persons in One. Three gods or persons in one is a paganistic concept that men have tried to transform into a Christian doctrine. There is only One God and God will not have anything to do with a Trinity. The word “Trinity” is not scriptural. God doesn’t know of any other gods/persons (Isaiah 43:10-13,15, 44:6, 8). Review Titus 1:16.

To prove that Jesus is the Father, let’s look at John 16:7. Jesus tells the disciples that He will send the Comforter and it’s important that he go away so that the Comforter would come. Why? Because Jesus is the Comforter (in Spirit when He returns). Remember that only God, The Father, can send the Comforter/Holy Spirit.

Now let’s go back and look at John 14 and verse 26. Jesus says the Father will send the Comforter. This again lets us know that Jesus is the Father and he will send the Comforter in his own name (Jesus Christ(Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9). As a result of what Jesus told the apostles, we have found out that the name of the Comforter/Holy Ghost/Spirit is Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38). John 16: 13-16. Jesus said, he is the truth in verse 14:6, which means, he is the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Truth is the Comforter/Holy Ghost/Spirit.

Therefore, Jesus is the Holy Ghost/Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth will glorify the name of Jesus (Isaiah 42:8). Jesus is telling them that all the things that the Father has are mine. Why? Because Jesus is the Father who is in heaven (Isaiah 9:6). The Spirit of Truth (The Holy Ghost) will take the things of Jesus and show the mystery of who he is (Ephesians 3:3-5, Colossians 1:14-19). Verse 16. Jesus tells his followers that in a little while he will revert back into his Spirit form by saying, he will be going back to his Father (Matthew 28:18). There is no question that Jesus Christ is Lord God, Father of heaven and earth and Saviour of the world (Deuteronomy 6:4, Luke 2:11, Isaiah 9:6, 43:10-12).

This is an edited excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations. To order call 1-888-280-7715

Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Proof: The Father (Spirit) is greater than the Son...

Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Proof: The Father (Spirit) is greater than the Son...: "John 14:28 The Father is greater than Jesus (Sonship-flesh). This statement will have to be addressed because it could be a stumbling bloc..."

Proof: The Father (Spirit) is greater than the Son (Flesh)?


John 14:28

The Father is greater than Jesus (Sonship-flesh). This statement will have to be addressed because it could be a stumbling block for many people who will try to find reasons not to believe Jesus is God "The Father" and that the Word of God is somehow in error (Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, Colossians 2:9)..

To satisfy this scripture; I would like to reiterate the importance of knowing the Spirit and its operation and the flesh (Sonship) and its operation. The Father or the Spirit of Christ is so much greater than the flesh because of the limitations that God placed on all flesh; even the flesh of Jesus. At one point, Jesus in his Sonship could not inhabit the whole universe. The Father (Spirit) can inhabit the whole universe, therefore, The Father (the Spirit) is greater. The flesh cannot be in more than one place at the same time. God in the Spirit can be in every place at the same time. Therefore, the Father (Spirit) is greater. The flesh of God needed rest, food, and water. The Father (the Spirit) doesn’t need rest, food, nor water, therefore, the Father is greater. The Father (the Spirit) is all-powerful and the flesh of Jesus had limitations and the Flesh did not have all power at that time. Therefore, the Father (the Spirit) is greater. Jesus (The flesh-Sonship) received all power after the resurrection and after his glorification (Matthew 28:18, John 12:28, 13:31-32).

Jesus made simple statements. However, you won’t understand what he is saying if you don’t believe that he is God and if you don’t understand his dual nature. Unless you understand the dual nature of Jesus, you will never understand what Jesus means, when he speaks. Without controversy, this is the mystery of godliness (I Timothy 3:16). God himself was manifested as the Son and yet, we still won’t believe he is both the Father and the Son (John 1:10). What will the Lord do with this generation, if they won’t believe his Word? When you hear the truth sometimes you feel like you don’t want to hear it.

John 16: 1-4, 7, 14-16

The following statements might make you feel like you don’t want to hear it.. However, continue reading and you will begin to see the light based on the scriptures. When God’s chosen people tell others that God is not a Trinity, they will become extremely upset because their logic has been tainted by traditions and untruths (Colossians 2:8-9). They will be challenged in a way they have never known before. If we would search the scriptures, we would find that there are no recordings about the Trinity in the scriptures. The concept of the Trinity is not a foundation based on Christ. The “Trinity” has a foundation based on a concept of three co-equal and separate personalities in one being, which doesn’t have anything to do with who God is. The Trinity is an "assumption" of who God is.

The Trinitarian doctrine was suggested at the Council of Nicaea in 325A.D. This is a doctrine of men and that’s why it can’t be understood, explained, nor proven by the scriptures. The Trinity is a figment of man’s imagination, which is based on traditions, deceit, and philosophy (Colossians 2:8-10). There are people who will call themselves Christians and they will put a “Oneness Christian” out of their Churches and they will think that they will be doing God a favor.

They will do these things because they don’t know who God is; they don’t understand that God is one (Mark 12:32). They will say that God is one but they don’t understand that the one God’s name is Jesus Christ (The Father – Isaiah 9:6, John 1:1, 3, 10, 14, I Timothy 3:16). God used three manifestations of himself for the salvation of man. (Titus 1:16). Again, they won’t believe, nor accept the fact, that the name of the Father, and name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ (proven in Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:28). Three manifestations of One God and one Name.

Note: Today, I believe, “unbelieving followers of Christ” will act the same as the people who wanted to kill Jesus for blasphemy. They won’t believe the Word of God because they don’t understand it. True believers of Christ, believe that Jesus is the Son and he is equal with God and is, in fact, God himself and he can forgive sins (Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21, John 5:18). The Word of God is true but to an unbeliever, it can’t be understood, neither will they know the way of salvation because of their unbelief. They don’t know who God the Father is; neither do they know Jesus Christ, the Son (John 8:19).

I have heard it said, that if anyone tells you that there is no such thing as a Trinity; don’t listen to them. Remember this; the person who tells you not to listen to the truth of the oneness of God and the Deity of Christ is being used by the spirit of the antichrist which is against the name of Christ (I John 3:21-26).

Search the scriptures for yourself and you will find that there are not three persons in One. Three gods or persons in one is a paganistic concept that men have tried to transform into a Christian doctrine. There is only One God and God will not have anything to do with a Trinity. The word “Trinity” is not scriptural. God doesn’t know of any other gods/persons (Isaiah 43:10-13,15, 44:6, 8). Review Titus 1:16.

To prove that Jesus  is the Father, let’s look at John 16:7. Jesus tells the disciples that He will send the Comforter and it’s important that he go away so that the Comforter would come. Why? Because Jesus is the Comforter (in Spirit when He returns). Remember that only God, The Father, can send the Comforter/Holy Spirit.

Now let’s go back and look at John 14 and verse 26. Jesus says the Father will send the Comforter. This again lets us know that Jesus is the Father and he will send the Comforter in his own name (Jesus Christ(Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9). As a result of what Jesus told the apostles, we have found out that the name of the Comforter/Holy Ghost/Spirit is Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38). John 16: 13-16. Jesus said, he is the truth in verse 14:6, which means, he is the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Truth is the Comforter/Holy Ghost/Spirit.

Therefore, Jesus is the Holy Ghost/Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth will glorify the name of Jesus (Isaiah 42:8). Jesus is telling them that all the things that the Father has are mine. Why? Because Jesus is the Father who is in heaven (Isaiah 9:6). The Spirit of Truth (The Holy Ghost) will take the things of Jesus and show the mystery of who he is (Ephesians 3:3-5, Colossians 1:14-19). Verse 16. Jesus tells his followers that in a little while he will revert back into his Spirit form by saying, he will be going back to his Father (Matthew 28:18). There is no question that Jesus Christ is Lord God, Father of heaven and earth and Saviour of the world (Deuteronomy 6:4, Luke 2:11, Isaiah 9:6, 43:10-12).

This is an edited excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations.  To order call 1-888-280-7715.