Thursday, April 7, 2011
Understanding The Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations: At what point are we saved? At the reception of th...
Understanding The Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations: At what point are we saved? At the reception of th...: "The purpose of a question like this is to wrest with the scriptures so that God’s Word will in some manner support traditional beliefs or no..."
Understanding The Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations: At what point are we saved? At the reception of th...
Understanding The Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations: At what point are we saved? At the reception of th...: "At what point are we saved? At the reception of the Holy Spirit or at the Baptism in Jesus Name? The purpose of a question like this is ..."
At what point are we saved? At the reception of the Holy Spirit or at the baptism in Jesus Name?
The purpose of a question like this is to wrest with the scriptures so that God’s Word will in some manner support traditional beliefs or non-belief in the operations of God and his method of
salvation. However, there might be some who sincerely want to know the answer to this type of philosophical question.
Let’s do this. Let’s go to God’s Word. (Matthew 9:13, Mark 1:4, Romans 2:4, II Timothy 2:25). Based on the Word of God, we must first repent. After repentance there is no specific order in the operation and salvation of God. However, the full operation must be completed before salvation is complete. According to God’s Word we must; 1. Repent 2. Be baptized in Jesus name 3. Receive the Holy Spirit. This is the salvation message taught by the apostles (Acts 2:38). If someone would challenge or wrest with this, do part of it, or ignore it altogether, the consequence will be to their own hurt.
Now, there have been a number of occasions where people have received the Holy Spirit without first being baptized in the name of the Lord. However, once the apostles saw people receiving the Holy Ghost, they always made it clear to them that they should be baptized in Jesus name (Acts 10:44:48).
Why would baptism in Jesus name be necessary seeing that they had received the Holy Ghost? There is evidence to support the fact that the apostles felt that the baptism in Jesus was absolutely necessary to complete the salvation experience (Romans 6:3-4, Colossians 2:12).
Today, we have seen people repent, get baptized in Jesus name and then receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. In my experience, I have seen it both ways. I have seen baptism in Jesus name before and after the reception of the Holy Ghost. There is no specific order other than
repentance which must come first (Acts 8:14-16, 10:44-48).
The Bible doesn’t indicate at what point we are saved. Why would we need to know at what point we are saved? Are we trying to find out what we can leave out? Are we trying to see if we can leave out repentance? Are trying to see if we can leave out baptism in Jesus name? Are we trying to see if we need to receive the Holy Spirit? Are we trying to see in our own wisdom if our traditions fit with God’s instructions, are we trying to find out if there is some other way to be saved, are we trying to find out if this or that is necessary for salvation? Why do we wrest with the scriptures?
God has given us clear instructions that we must follow. Why would we take a chance with our souls? Would we feel safe knowing that we have the Holy Spirit and haven’t obeyed the scriptures by baptism in Jesus name according to the apostles’ directions (Acts 19:1-5, Romans 6:3-4, Colossians 2:12)? Would you feel safe being baptized in Jesus name and not receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit? How would you feel knowing that the Holy Spirit has led and guided you into the truth of water baptism and you have refused to be baptized in Jesus name? How would you answer the Lord if he asked you, why weren’t you baptized in my name seeing that I have told you in my Word what you needed to do? Why didn’t you obey (II Thessalonians 1:8, I Peter 4:17)?
God orchestrated salvation. He alone decides who will or will not be saved and at what point we are saved. He told us what to do in his Word. And we will be judged by the Word. The Word will determine whether we have obeyed the actions of the apostles beginning with Peter (Acts 2:38). Obedience is one of the main tenants in God’s Word and his salvation.
Don’t wait and don’t ignore so great a salvation. Just believe in the name of Jesus Christ and have faith. God will reveal salvation, the born again experience, and his Word to you.
This is an excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations. To order call 1-888-280-7715
salvation. However, there might be some who sincerely want to know the answer to this type of philosophical question.
Let’s do this. Let’s go to God’s Word. (Matthew 9:13, Mark 1:4, Romans 2:4, II Timothy 2:25). Based on the Word of God, we must first repent. After repentance there is no specific order in the operation and salvation of God. However, the full operation must be completed before salvation is complete. According to God’s Word we must; 1. Repent 2. Be baptized in Jesus name 3. Receive the Holy Spirit. This is the salvation message taught by the apostles (Acts 2:38). If someone would challenge or wrest with this, do part of it, or ignore it altogether, the consequence will be to their own hurt.
Now, there have been a number of occasions where people have received the Holy Spirit without first being baptized in the name of the Lord. However, once the apostles saw people receiving the Holy Ghost, they always made it clear to them that they should be baptized in Jesus name (Acts 10:44:48).
Why would baptism in Jesus name be necessary seeing that they had received the Holy Ghost? There is evidence to support the fact that the apostles felt that the baptism in Jesus was absolutely necessary to complete the salvation experience (Romans 6:3-4, Colossians 2:12).
Today, we have seen people repent, get baptized in Jesus name and then receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. In my experience, I have seen it both ways. I have seen baptism in Jesus name before and after the reception of the Holy Ghost. There is no specific order other than
repentance which must come first (Acts 8:14-16, 10:44-48).
The Bible doesn’t indicate at what point we are saved. Why would we need to know at what point we are saved? Are we trying to find out what we can leave out? Are we trying to see if we can leave out repentance? Are trying to see if we can leave out baptism in Jesus name? Are we trying to see if we need to receive the Holy Spirit? Are we trying to see in our own wisdom if our traditions fit with God’s instructions, are we trying to find out if there is some other way to be saved, are we trying to find out if this or that is necessary for salvation? Why do we wrest with the scriptures?
God has given us clear instructions that we must follow. Why would we take a chance with our souls? Would we feel safe knowing that we have the Holy Spirit and haven’t obeyed the scriptures by baptism in Jesus name according to the apostles’ directions (Acts 19:1-5, Romans 6:3-4, Colossians 2:12)? Would you feel safe being baptized in Jesus name and not receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit? How would you feel knowing that the Holy Spirit has led and guided you into the truth of water baptism and you have refused to be baptized in Jesus name? How would you answer the Lord if he asked you, why weren’t you baptized in my name seeing that I have told you in my Word what you needed to do? Why didn’t you obey (II Thessalonians 1:8, I Peter 4:17)?
God orchestrated salvation. He alone decides who will or will not be saved and at what point we are saved. He told us what to do in his Word. And we will be judged by the Word. The Word will determine whether we have obeyed the actions of the apostles beginning with Peter (Acts 2:38). Obedience is one of the main tenants in God’s Word and his salvation.
Don’t wait and don’t ignore so great a salvation. Just believe in the name of Jesus Christ and have faith. God will reveal salvation, the born again experience, and his Word to you.
This is an excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations. To order call 1-888-280-7715
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