Understanding The Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations


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Thursday, July 21, 2011

No man has ever seen God (Christ) in His Spiritual form (I Corinthians 10:4)


John 6:46, 14:5-10

No man has seen the Father. We have been discussing how Jesus is the Father and we know that Jesus told the disciples when you have seen me, you have seen the Father. (Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9).

How do we reconcile these scriptures? This seems like a contradiction, but it’s not. The Glory of God is so bright and powerful that no flesh could remain in God’s presence. Therefore, we do know that no man has seen the Spirit of God, in his fullness, at any time and live. Moses saw the backside of God and he has talked to God face to face, but he has never seen God in the fullness of his glory. God is so vast that man has to see God in some type of “manifestation” or condensed form.

Let’s look at what Jesus is saying in John. Jesus is telling the disciples that they are looking at the express image of God. The manifested flesh of God - “The Father”. (John 1:1, 14, Hebrews 1:3, Colossians 2:8-9, I Timothy 3:16, I John 1-2).

In other words, the disciples have seen the express image of God the Father in the flesh but they have not seen God the Father in the fullness of his Spiritual form, which is in the body of Jesus  (John 14:10-11, Colossians 2:9).

The disciples understood, over time, that Jesus was the one God in Christ, the Son of the Living God. The same God in the Old Testament was now on earth in the form of a man (as the Father - John 10:30,  14:9) reconciling the world unto himself (II Corinthians 5:19, John 8:24, 58).

This is an edited excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations.  To order call 1-888-280-7715.

Wednesday, July 20, 2011

Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Jesus speaks of God as His Father

Understanding the Trinity vs Three Manifestations: Jesus speaks of God as His Father: "John 6:26-29 Jesus speaks of God as His Father. Isn’t it strange that Jesus speaks of the Father as if he is someone other than himself. L..."

Jesus speaks of God as His Father

John 6:26-29

Jesus speaks of God as His Father. Isn’t it strange that Jesus speaks of the Father as if he is someone other than himself. Let me explain to you what Jesus is saying. Jesus is telling the people that they are following him because they like to eat and not because of the miracles that they have seen. However, they should seek everlasting life, which Jesus will give them because God the Father has sealed him. The flesh of Jesus has been sealed with the Holy Spirit.

When Jesus is speaking of God the Father, he is referring to his manifestation in Spirit form. The Spirit is greater than the flesh. There are limitations to the flesh of the Son of Man that cannot compare to the power and vastness of the Spirit; glorification comes later  (Isaiah 42:8). For the Spirit, who is referred to as God the Father, can do all things and be in every place in the Universe at the same time and the flesh cannot. This same Spirit is also referred to as the Spirit of Christ in the New Testament. In other words, the two different manifestations is One Spirit. The Spirit of Christ/Spirit of God is the same Spirit.

The people wanted to know what they should do so that they could do the works of God. Jesus explained to them that they should believe on him whom the Father had sent. In other words, he didn’t say believe in the Father. Why? Because he is also the Father, in his Spiritual Form. Jesus is telling them that out of my Spirit form, I sent this flesh. Don’t forget that Jesus has a dual nature, he is both God the Father and Man -The Son.

Thus, when you believe on Jesus, you have found God the Father (Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9-11). Remember: Jesus said, no man comes to the Father but by me. Why? Because Jesus is the Father.
 
This is an edited excerpt from my book, "Understanding the Trinity, Three Persons vs Three Manifestations.  To order call 1-888-280-771